cimone (wonderfinch) wrote in egl_comm_sales,
2012-03-17 13:02:00
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Updated 75/25 Guidelines

milkteamilk was kind enough to make up some image-based guidelines for the ever-troublesome 75/25 rule :) Hopefully this will shed a little light on the way we enforce this rule and enable you to work out what items are okay for sale before making your post!





A couple of notes: 
What does “loliable” mean, anyways? 
An item is not loliable just because it “could work” with a lolita outfit. A piece is not loliable because it is pink and has a floral print. A piece is not loliable just because you’ve worn it with a lolita outfit. A piece is loliable because it could work with a very obviously lolita outfit in a way that’s immediately obvious for most lolitas upon seeing the item, even if it doesn’t come from a whitelisted brand or perfectly represent a lolita substyle. The term also applies to non-clothing pieces, like cute combs, pretty headphones, and deco-ed phone cases. 

What kinds of items are considered “lolita”? 
Please refer to this post for a list of items that the moderation team recognizes as lolita. Items from whitelisted brands also fall into this category. 

I think my item is lolita/loliable, but a mod said I couldn't post it. What can I do? 
Begin by PMing the moderator who rejected your post with images of your items, and request that they present your items to the moderation team. The moderators will then review and vote on which items are lolita, which are loliable, and which are unacceptable. A moderator will then PM you to let you know which items you may post.

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  • 11 comments

unowncafe

March 17 2012, 21:21:19 UTC 1 year ago

Very nice update. I enjoyed the chart.

fay_mai

March 18 2012, 03:33:12 UTC 1 year ago

This might be a stupid question, but is the rule for sellers only or buyers too ? I mean If I post saying that I am looking for off brand cardigans does it mean that my post is 100% loliable items and it's gonna be rejected ?

wonderfinch

March 18 2012, 03:43:09 UTC 1 year ago

It's for both sellers and buyers, but obviously there's more lenience for WTB posts than for sale posts. To use your example, there are a fair number of offbrand cardigans that are lolita (especially from Taobao shops and the like) rather than just being loliable, so we'd allow a WTB for offbrand cardigans through even if we wouldn't allow every offbrand cardigan for sale on the community. Since WTB posts are significantly less specific and can generally encompass lolita AND loliable items, we're a lot less strict with them. When making a WTB, as long as you're not posting a WTB for a non-lolita item you should be fine.

fay_mai

March 18 2012, 04:08:39 UTC 1 year ago

Thanks a lot for the clarification :)

neiglesias

March 18 2012, 03:51:37 UTC 1 year ago

I'm confused as to why we can sell fake nails (not deco nails) but we can't sell brand new dolly wink eyelashes.

wonderfinch

March 18 2012, 04:19:55 UTC 1 year ago

Typically we only allow lolita-specific nails to be sold on the community (e.g. nails with decoed or painted designs that would be unique to lolita). We don't usually allow lashes and makeup (including generic fake nails) to be sold on the community because they're not exclusive to lolita and can be purchased other places.

redfrosty

March 18 2012, 11:37:21 UTC 1 year ago

what about homemade lolita dresses, that are good quality? there not brand name and really lolita just homemade?

wonderfinch

March 18 2012, 15:17:03 UTC 1 year ago

Those are covered up above, along with items from indie brands and small brands. If the item was specifically made for lolita fashion and very clearly represents the lolita aesthetic, then it's lolita.

stained_doll

January 30 2013, 00:30:58 UTC 3 months ago

I made a headress inspired by sailor-loli, but am not sure if it's close enough, as it can be used in other more elaborate styles. It would be my only item, however, so that's over 25% if i sell it. It looks like this: http://25.media.tumblr.com/526d064fb7f097f7f2810cd7e6471b29/tumblr_mhbjktPttf1rp2zczo1_1280.jpg Can it be sold?

amytasukada

April 3 2013, 17:14:02 UTC 1 month ago

just for clarification how do wigs work? They're an example of an lolitable item, correct? So if someone post 3 purely lolita items and 1 wig. Each wig counts as one item, yes? So for example I can't sell just one dress and one wig because that would be 50/50. So if I were selling 20 total items only 5 could be lolitable items such as wigs.

wonderfinch

April 3 2013, 17:41:37 UTC 1 month ago

No, actually, we count wigs as lolita items. I know it sounds a little bit weird, but it got to be such a hassle to differentiate between lolita and loliable wigs since so many hair styles can work well with lolita that we just threw in the towel and decided to count them as lolita. So if you were selling wigs you could in theory sell as many as you want.

We usually don't allow obvious cosplay wigs (like, REALLY REALLY obvious cosplay wigs- think a Cloud wig), really extremely colored extensions (think bright green streak extensions), or obviously crap-tier wigs (think a Party City tinsel wig) but other than that we're pretty lenient with them because they used to take up so darn much of our time.